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If I'm wrong in what I say so be it. As I have said before I don't have anything against electrics (apart from the lack of noise) but they are not capable of anymore than ten laps. I am going to now focus on Off Shore as I believe I have as good a chance of winning an Off Shore event as anyone else. Electrics can not compete in Off Shore and when have you ever seen an electric motor in a full size Power Boat. It doesn't matter what size boat you have in Off Shore, it all comes down to consistency. I feel that on our local club days we should run more endurance races say over 30 or 45mins with at least one pit stop. Sprint races are good but sometimes it comes down to a demolition race i.e. the last one standing wins. As far as newbies go endurance racing would be far better suited to them as they can pace themselves around the circuit and accumulate laps and at the end they can pat themselves on the shoulder and say hey I did 48 laps and the winner only did 52. They will get a far bigger kick from that. So maybe should we be looking at having more endurance racing as that's what I would like to see. When I say endurance racing I mean over a pacific time, not a certain amount of laps.

Hi All,
Thats a hefty amount of input, so in trying to summerise for more specific comment / debate it appears we have the following things to think about a bit more ?
1> Clearly, begginner / prospect boaties get started at club level, they will obviously see what they see, like what they like and want / get what they want, it is upto each individual club to offer the assistance required to help these guys and at least TRY to steer them in a direction with a craft that at least gives them half a chance of surviving through the learning to set up and driving process without throwing it all in again as too hard or too expensive or feeling bad about possibly having had a set back or caused a wreck that involved others. It ALL starts at club level and we ALL have a responsibility in this if we are ever going to step forward from where clubs are at, that then transcends into NZ assoc membership and activity as confidence and experiences grows.
2> The NZ assoc could create a "begginers guide to" type page on the web site that supports the above, and covers off all 3 power modes, with the pros and cons of each set out in plain english.
3> That the "stock" clases are not just about value for money racing and level playing feilds, it does present an opportunity for "rookies" to come into a competition with out being completely over awed, thats IF they have chosen to set up a craft that fits this bill. These classes also and importantly set up a competition base for current members that freely admit to not being able to cope driving ( confidantly and safely) boats which start to exceed 100kph ( as a threshold that most seem to mention)otherwise we start to exclude these people and / or put them in a position they would rather choose not to be in if there is an alternative.
4> It appears MOST classes as per current structure SEEM to be ok,electric due to product / technology availability needs a little update, most debate seems to be around the petrol classes. P3 at this stage is all ok, except some question the need for the class as a well set up P2 goes just as well ? So P3 class seems to be a case of "play it again sam" just with a few more CC under the hood, it is early days for P3 and PX so just needs monitoring.
The stock classes are noted above, so just leaves the breakdown of the various P2 hydro classes:
T1 is working well, leave it alone !!
T2, possibly open up to any engine brand so long as it meets the cc rating requirement. Do we allow T1 boats to run in T2 as well, or not ? ( IMHO they should not, as they are only increasing numbers and on the basis of power vs power of the "same" hull they are not actually competing, they only pick up placings based on others demise, I call that Seagull racing !)
Sport Petrol Hydro, modify hull requirement to be picklefork only, ( with the appropriate specs around this as needed, eg pickle depth must exceed 10% of hull length but not 25% of hull length, any canards or wings are not considered in those dimensions)
Outrigger Petrol Hydro, needed or not ? IF it is, then do we need P2 hydro, as that then is really just an Open Oval type event for any and all P2 hydros, OR do we drop petrol Outrigger hydro, and leave P2 hydro in place for all to have a crack at, understanding that in THEORY, with time, Outriggers should dominate this class anyway ?
We have but a handful of members contributing to all this, ALL members can join and comment on this thread if they give a shit ! ie any sort of generic " questionaire" generally yeilds a 4% or less feed back, which is about the percentage of the membership currently represented in this thread...??!!
Maybe the guys showing this interest might form the basis of the NZ Committee for 2014 > 2015 ? At this stage we have upto 5 committee members who are not going to stand again, so quite a few gaps to fill !
In all, the guts of most things are under control, its just a bit of fine tuning and "fixing up" that the NZ Committee needs to work on IMHO.

Thanks to all that have contributed so far...

Regs, TUI.

Well it appears the scene is set then for ALL those in the classes mentioned so far to jump in and have a say, the more feed back then the better the committee will understand what is favoured and hence can make the approprite decisions to tidy up...

Looking forward to structured answers on all above !!

Cheers, TUI.

Hi Steve
1 yes
2 yes
3 no
4 yes
5yes 😯
6 no 😯
7 no
Cheers Bruce

Hi Steve
1-Yes
2-Yes
3-No
4-Yes
5-No
6-Yes
7-No

Cheers
Terry