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Bigfishbob
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Post Re: 2014 Nationals
on: January 28, 2014, 21:48
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Okay

1 - Yes
2 - No
3 - Yes
4 - Yes
5 - Yes
6 - No
7 - Yes

Completely agree with Pete's final point, when you simply have a P2 class you have a much simpler situation, than when you Split P2 into modded and stock, you then have to police the stockness of stock engines and moddedness of modded engines. Good luck to whoever wants that headache.

My overall vote is to keep it simple, the fastest most consistant boat driven by the best driver should be what wins. Nitro's right on the money in this respect, simplicity menas that everybody understands how it works. As Pete said, trying to separate modded and Stock engines just complicates things for everybody. When a modded boat runs slower than others will we have a compulsory strip down to check that said slow boat was actually modded? Only to find that the owner had simply forgotten to change the carb diaphragm or had a dying sparkplug?

Finally everybody who's participated in this thread so far needs to give themselves a hearty pat on the back for engaging in the conversation and playing the ball NOT the man. It's been great to see and long may it continue. 😀

Tui
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Post Re: 2014 Nationals
on: January 28, 2014, 22:15
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Just a note that I have started a specific POLL thread under the Gas part of things, keep the dialogue as above going on this thread, but please JUST LOG YES / NO ANSWERS on the Gas thread.

Cheers, TUI.

Sorry
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Post Re: 2014 Nationals
on: January 28, 2014, 22:19
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It looks to me that there are several opinions on what we should/shouldn't have. Someone said on an earlier thread (can't remember who) the old saying KISS yep I agree. So in saying that apart from tidying up the Hydro's lets stick to what we've got and do away with the so called stock class and stick to P2, P3 and PX any motors modded or not.

Damo
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Post Re: 2014 Nationals
on: January 28, 2014, 22:35
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Its funny i see on jims boat dock they are having a similar discusion thread re stock classes, seems the world round we are faced with the same dilemmas lol.
Its great to see some different points of view, hopefully more of the people running these classes will chime in and have their say.

cheers
Damian

Nitro Ned
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Post Re: 2014 Nationals
on: January 29, 2014, 00:50
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I have cast my votes on Steves other thread

Cheers Nitro KISS! KISS! KISS! KISS! KISS!

Bigfishbob
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Post Re: 2014 Nationals
on: January 29, 2014, 10:25
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Quote from Damo on January 28, 2014, 22:35
Its funny i see on jims boat dock they are having a similar discusion thread re stock classes, seems the world round we are faced with the same dilemmas lol.
Its great to see some different points of view, hopefully more of the people running these classes will chime in and have their say.

cheers
Damian

Can't find the Like button so this will have to do. 😀

Tui
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Post Re: 2014 Nationals
on: February 2, 2014, 07:17
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Hi All,
Thanks for all the replies so far, at this stage we have about 8 or 9 respondants, but would like to see heaps more, some of the issues seem quite clear cut where others are very 50/50 at this stage.
Can I please urge you all to talk to your club mates and encourage them to log some answers...more the better... Please put answers into the "Independant Poll" heading under Gas discussions.
I will put the results of the poll out next Friday, 7th Feb.

Cheers to all for the great debate around all this !

Thx, TUI.

Guest
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Post Re: 2014 Nationals
on: February 5, 2014, 08:57
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Hi All

Well, after a year away from the NZMPBA scene due to illness I've returned to; well never mind.

I got into boating for fun. Out and out simple fun without having to spend squillians on a boat.
Bugger going fast.
Bugger winning.
Just have fun. I often feel that many of you loss sight of the fun you are supposed to be having boating.

Stock class is essential, no matter what terms are used. I feel the essence is a stock standard 26cc engine. As far as I'm concerned, I don't care about brand. So what if an RCMK develops more power. It's of no use to you if you can't use it or can't drive (like me). And for those interested in going fast, good luck to them. I've already proved that going fast DOESN'T necessarily win races. Because often you end up turtled.

There MUST be a class for the novice/entry level person to attend the NATS. If for nothing else but to experience a competition and to meet like minded people. This is opposed to attending their club meetings.

I guess I'll be the one to say it. Is nitro really a viable/sustainable option?
With the cost and convenience of petrol engines, will nitro remain?
Don't flame me for saying it. I'm simply being realistic.

And as for petrol engine classes. Lets not get to carried away here. Your running the risk of over complicating things. Manufacturers are the ones leading the engine class stakes. Take a step back and look at what is being developed. what is considered factory stock and what is factory mod. anything that doesn't fit is therefore not standard, and by default is mod. Yup, Zenoah seem to be the industry standard that many other engine manufacturers base their engines on, and the committee are probably right to use that as their standard.

Now as for the committee: That's a different thing all together. If your not happy with the committee making these changes without your knowledge then attend the AGM and change it.

I'll see you on the water some time. I'll be the old bugger with the slowest boat and a probably questionable engine (grin).

Regards

Fred

jnr ridds
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Post Re: 2014 Nationals
on: February 7, 2014, 11:11
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Hi guys,

just a quick ?, are shovels allow to run in sport hydro, or is it pickle only? and it good to see what your doing with the stock classes steve, that's why i started with a shovel because t1 was sort of the only stock class to run and back then, when i first start t1 was the faster rc anything i had ever driven an was i gud speed to start at.

cheers lil Ridds

Bigfishbob
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Post Re: 2014 Nationals
on: February 7, 2014, 19:48
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Quote from jnr ridds on February 7, 2014, 11:11
Hi guys,

just a quick ?, are shovels allow to run in sport hydro, or is it pickle only? and it good to see what your doing with the stock classes steve, that's why i started with a shovel because t1 was sort of the only stock class to run and back then, when i first start t1 was the faster rc anything i had ever driven an was i gud speed to start at.

cheers lil Ridds

Shovels are currently allowed in PSH Ben, the beauty of the current rules is that a beginner can turn up with a single T1 boat and race 3-4 events over the period of the event or a weekend. That was a great way to learn real fast and when the beginner is ready they could get a modded engine to be more competitive in the other classes without having to commit to building a completely new boat.

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