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Jedi
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on: September 22, 2014, 22:24
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😕 Having been to Taupo and Rotorua Off Shore series in the last month and being involved at Taupo in lap counting I am a little confused regards the size of the number boards. According to our Rules the number must be at least 75mm in height. As I was having trouble reading some of the numbers as boats were whizzing by I decided to measure some numbers. The result was that some numbers were well below the height stipulated in our rules i.e. only 65mm. On checking some numbers at Rotorua the same applied On questioning some fellow boaters at Rotorua their reply was that they had purchased the numbers from the association so they must be correct. All I can say is that if some boats have very small numbers and I am doing some lap counting and I happen to miss some as they are unreadable don't come and blame me for your lack of laps at the completion of the race. Cheers.

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on: September 22, 2014, 22:30
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You're right Brian, there are some very small numbers out there, and also I don't think we have specified the width or the font, so you get skinny numbers which are also hard to see.

Would be sad disappointed if these non-compliant ones had been purchased from the association. Mine are one of the original lots that Damian organised for the association and seem to be about right.

Might be worth updating the rules to include a prescription for font type as well.

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Jedi
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on: September 23, 2014, 22:06
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I fully agree. Perhaps the committee could look into this and come up with some recommendations. But what gets me is that we already have rules re the sizes of the number boards so why do we need to re invent the wheel. Cheers.

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Jedi
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on: September 24, 2014, 11:20
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Will look at the number board thing.

A point to note, if a boat is running and the number board is not legible them the lap counter and or race controller needs to call it so that the driver can fix the problem. Missing counting boats and not making sure the opportunity is given to fix the problem is not a good situation! This is the sort of thing that causes unnecessesary crap. We need to keep as much integrity in the system as possible.

Perhaps number boards should be scrutineered also?

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on: September 24, 2014, 14:55
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Fair point Pete

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on: September 24, 2014, 15:37
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Yes i Agree to some are hard to read an when the water is rough looking at white boards with black numbers on is even harder to read so if we are going to look at the size of these also think about a darker back ground for these boards with a lighter colour for the numbers just my 10 bobs worth to give you all something to think about or we all get stronger reading glasses

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Jedi
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on: September 24, 2014, 21:54
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I agree with what you say Peter but at Taupo I did just that I went an measured a board that was very hard to recognize and advised the driver. It's not that they actually missed any laps because of it, it just makes it very hard for the lap counter. Cheers

Foamworks
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on: September 24, 2014, 22:11
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Once when I was lap counting at Hamilton, a number board became unreadable for some reason I cant remember why, it was not difficult at all for me to think oh, that is so n so's boat he is number 5, every time that red boat goes past I will press number 5. Or if using paper instead of IRMS, cross out the number 5 on the piece of paper and put red boat or the persons name, anything, point is there is no need to be a dick and not count laps because of a number board, there is lots of other ways to recognise someone's boat, they are all pretty distinctive in colour or shape. Back in the day in the old matrix races I remember the lap counter familiarised themselves with each persons boat and that is how they counted the laps. Number boards came in to make the job easier. It is just a radio control boat race. Just my 2c ha ha laugh now.

Bigbird
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on: September 25, 2014, 00:09
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LOL. I am happy that at last someone has pointed out this problem, especially at Taupo where the IRMS is located so far back from the water, that distance is a factor too. I have seen a caller on the waters edge voicing numbers back to the button pusher under the gazebo, and at times a walkie-talkie used for the same purpose. Figuring that it was a problem and that it is hard to get things improved as a lone voice I implemented my own solution by having a 160 mm square board and putting a bigger number on it so at least my own laps were counted. Positive feedback I received on Saturday night was that my number was really easy to see. Nothing said about it being non-compliant with the rules. And I suppose I could actually be handicapped by presenting a bigger wind catcher in a strong crosswind increasing the risk of being blown over as it might have been had I run at Rotorua.

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on: September 25, 2014, 10:00
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Some good points in this discussion. There is some work beginning looking at a transponder based system which would obsolete all of the problems we currently have, especially where human error occurs.
Remember guys, that if there are issues or ideas around our boating, let your friendly (lol) committee member know so that we can address and work on them. This is how we can continue to improve and grow model power boating in NZ.

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