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kerryoreil-
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Post Well Done
on: July 9, 2012, 18:31
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Well Done Hamilton club just a outstanding weekend of racing

Regards Kerry...
Tui
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on: July 10, 2012, 20:58
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True that ! Many thanks to your self Kerry and Birmy, for all the work literally running the event. Just in case you were wondering I adjusted all the results and printed them off to send out, just gotta figure how to get them on the forum ! Apart from the volume of the lap complete confirmation IRMS ran perfectly. We are fixing that and the next biggest thing to do is to educate drivers and pit people that they have a responsibility to record their laps with the buttons, no different to the old days when each had a stop watch to start on time, count laps then stop on time ! In my opinion its time to get tuff and say if the button pushes are not recorded then thats just too bad, it will affect your result negatively. Its all about habit. While I instruct my pitmen to count each lap using their fingers and tell me every lap which lap I am on, I also ask them every lap if they dont tell me, I also ask if they pushed the button !
Driver and pitman need to work as a team on a number of levels and pushing the button is just one of those.

Apart from that, cheers to all for a real fun event and some wicked racing, some of those starts with 6 petrol boats abreast at full noise was awsome....

Regs, TUI.
Bigfishbob
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Post Re: Well Done
on: July 10, 2012, 21:49
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Yeah in the pre irms days when pitmen needed to count on their fingers it was easier to fudge up a result before anybody realised you hadn't been counting.

I'm keen to have alook around for some weatherproof soft touch lap count buttons as well. It came to my attention over the weekend that people with arthirtis in their hands really struggle with the buttons we have.

In my drug induced haze from the last couple of days I also have an idea for a small light weight aluminium gantry/bridge that extends from the bank to an anchored pontoon, that suspends the pickup loop for a transponder system.

The whole thing would need to be stored and transported on a dedicated trailer, which is an added cost.

The transponder system prolly isn't that expensive, but the gantry/pontoon arrangement might cost a few more mucks but at least we'll have a world class race management system.

We'd just need to agreed on what the maximum distnace from the bank to the start buoy/pontoon needs to be.
Damo
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Post Re: Well Done
on: July 11, 2012, 20:44
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Maybe we can get some of the overseas clubs to post some pics of their setups for the pit loop on the dock, I will start a thread and see if we get any bites, it is something we should be seriously looking at, it could be used for speed runs also .
I think it is a shame when someone drives well and through no fault of their own are not rewarded with a win, I know it is a pain in the butt for the guys running IRMS to shag around to correct the results, a transponder system would take alot of the human error out of it and would also give accurate lap times and other usefull data.
Damian
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Post Re: Well Done
on: July 11, 2012, 21:28
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What are the details of the loop. Horizontal above the boats or above and below the water such that the boats run through it.

I will have a think about what might work as an engineer, and maybe ask some of the structural engineers at work for some free advice.

Peter
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Post Re: Well Done
on: July 12, 2012, 13:19
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Yeah good Idea that Damo you've had some good responses on the dock already. Had a wee chuckle to myself when somebody said they were going to use buttons!

Boy I got screwed in T1 last weekend, I knew about one pit person not pressing the buttons and I also knew about the two heats where I didn't finish due to hitting a buoy and losing steering and get washed down in another. But didn't know the system had me down on two other did not starts that I'm pretty sure I started!

Note to self always check the system yourself at the end of each race and confirm your placing.

I'm betting that transponders are conna have their own share of glitches as well.
Damo
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Post Re: Well Done
on: July 12, 2012, 22:35
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Hi Peter,
From what I understand the loop is suspended about 800mm above the water , I have started a thread on jims boat dock asking for details on how others have set up transponder systems , so far the best and most simple idea is to drive a steel pipe into the lake inside the course and one at the shore line, a pole with tee at top can then be slid into each ,the loop wires of .5mm stainless cord can be attatched to these and tensioned at the shoreline,large weights and ropes or wires can be attatched to the pipe in the lake to help with rigidity, this is a very simple setup that clubs could adopt with very little cost,the guy I have been emailing from IMPBA says that the wires on their loop are 75 feet between the poles, so a reasonable distance can be achieved so long as the wire used is not too heavy, I will get some ideas of costs for transponders and software.
Thanks
Damian
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Post Re: Well Done
on: July 14, 2012, 23:25
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Thanks Damian

An important aspect is that the wire is lightweight and/or suspended like a suspension bridge so that the required tension to keep it a constant height above the water is not too great. This will make it easier to set the anchor pipe in the lake and if the water is deep this could be a problem getting rigid anchorage, so the less load on it the better. And as Bob says maybe a floating pontoon for deep water.
Peter
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